"Inspired Moves In A Waiting World" w/ Joshua Garcia (BenjaCon 2022) - Mr Benja's ADD Experience 50

Inspiring art through thoughts, inspirations, and insights, Joshua Garcia runs his company Inspired LBC through curation | creativity | events | media.

2022-08-07 BenjaCon Joshua Garcia (audio)

Benja: How are you doing ladies and gentlemen? This is the final discussion slash interview slash media of minds for Bicon 2022. It's been a great week of very awesome ex exchanges of ideas and exchanges of thoughts today on a appropriately enough on a Sunday, we are rounding it out with one of the more inspired people that I know Joshua Garcia of inspired LBC.

I'm not sure what to categorize Josh has, but he's an art aficionado of businessman, entrepreneur. Definitely somebody I related to on a spiritual level and an artistic level. So I wanted to be sure we got him on this year to talk with list a little bit about what he's doing and his perspective on things.

Cuz he's got a fresh eyesight and fresh perspective on what's been happening with social media and everything else. So. We're gonna be sure to get him on here as usual, you'll be able to find my podcast online and all the other podcast outlets, apple, Google, Amazon's got a new thing. So if you go to Amazon music, you can actually listen to podcast there as well.

That's where you're gonna find the full podcast experience for Mr. Ben's ad the experience, which is the name of my podcast. So I wanna appreciate everybody for coming through. Not gonna wait too long on this one. We're gonna go ahead and get Josh in here and get to talking. If you have any questions, comments definitely be sure to ask them if you have something really pressing, we may even have you tap in, call up and see what's going on.

But for right now, what is up? My friend? What is up, Josh? How are you doing?

Joshua: Mr Benja. good's up, dude? I'm good. How are you?

Benja: Doing great. Doing great, man. Good seeing you. How are things.

Joshua: Things are good, dude. Just running at as fast as I can, but also like taking rest when I need them. You know what I mean? Cause like rest is just as important as moving .

Benja: Yeah, yeah, totally. You've you've always kept it busy though. So I totally appreciate that. And thank you. Appreciate it. You, you know, I usually don't do a Sunday.

Recording, but Ooh, Sunday is kind of my spiritual step back day and I was like, you know what? I'm feeling inspired. Ooh, let me, let me jump in there and let me, let me call, let me call up Josh and see what, what can, what can we make happen?

Joshua: Yes, hit up the bat phone.

Benja: that's right. Really quickly. I wanna thank everybody who came.

Who's coming through my rock oof, food and view T Harvey up OOC, Olivia Glass, art elements. ER, thank you all for coming through. Be sure if you, as I said, if you have any questions, comments, post 'em in the, in the comment box. In fact, I'm gonna post that up right now. So really quickly for the people who may not know, or just to set this off, let us know a little bit about yourself, who you are, what you do, broad overview.

We'll get into the specifics later.

Joshua: Yeah. Yeah. So. My name is Joshua Garcia. I run inspired LBC, but like more importantly, like I just live a creative lifestyle, you know whatever and whatever that looks like. And I can, I, I love to connect artists to businesses, artists, to brands, and then artists to other artists.

And it seems like the deeper that I follow my curiosity into this world, into this community into this culture more and more doors are opening up. And also it's just like, I'm having like very fruitful, right? This, this podcast included very fruitful conversations with a lot of people that are making positive changes and, you know, going after their goals and, you know coping with different.

Traumas and, you know, it's, it's a, it's the full life experience, right. The human experiences. Right. And we're being able, we're able to express that, which is through art, which is cool. And I'm being, I'm like in the, in the passenger seat, just along for this crazy walk ride .

Benja: Yeah, definitely. So when I met you, you were, it was at big street park.

Yes. We were put, they were putting together art shows. There were seasonal art fairs that would happen there. And I was a part of those, and that's where I ran across you Claudia and others. And I remember your enthusiasm of just seeing all of the creativity and the artists coming together and the people in the community.

How far along were you in. Art slash creative event journey at that point. Yeah, cause I don't know if that was like the first thing you were doing or where that came along in the process.

Joshua: You met me at this, you met me at the jump pretty much when we connected, which is kind of cool mm-hmm because I took a mentor of mine out to to lunch and this was, you know, when I was doing real estate you know, wholeheartedly, full time and I was like, I wanna get back to the community.

I just don't know how. And he is like, well, what do you enjoy doing? And I was like, well, I like working out. I'm active. I like traveling, hiking, art like watching movies, food, et cetera. He's like, well, write all of that down and just do something in that. And so that's what I did. And a week later he tagged me on the post for Claudia.

She was looking for an art curator and that really. Set off my journey. Like from that point that I raised my hand set me down this really cool creative journey. And from that point I started meeting a lot of different artists and creatives trying to look for artists for the show. Mm-hmm you being one of them shoutout, Mr.

Ben and AI and you know, I met so many different creatives that we put together for that event. And then from that event kind of just sprung on other ones as well.

Benja: Okay. Cause I remember it was the, and I do take that back. It wasn't the park where we met, we met at the expo, the expo center. Yeah.

And I, I remember like you were going around, you know, Shaking hands doing the thing. And I was like, okay, who's this guy, you know,

Joshua: this guy stopping by everyone. Boo .

Benja: Yeah. I mean, you always, you're always curious about that. And so when you stop by, I was like, okay, that's a pretty cool guy. And I've definitely put you in my, in my mental Rolodex.

It's like, okay. Watch out for that guy. Yeah. And and later on I see you, you know, building up into new things. Now you've gotten a lot more into the, when I, I don't wanna say just the art community, but definitely in the, the visible art space with the murals. And yeah, I remember what was it?

Is it powwow that mm-hmm, , there's a little bit of that you yeah, you were definitely covering at least.

Joshua: Yeah. I mean, powwow, I mean formally known as powwow, long beach walls now known as long beach walls is an amazing international art mural festival. And I uh, I got the opportunity to work with them and, you know, help with the closing party, shout out to Dakota for, for making that happen and Dakota.

Yeah. Yeah. She's, she's amazing. And you know, I was able to, to help with some of the closing parties and it was amazing to be a part of, and now, you know, I'm helping them with their upcoming installation for long beach walls this year, which is I'm just really happy to be a part of it. So. All right.

And it's cool. It's cool. Like meeting all these artists, you know, and

Benja: these creators. Yeah, definitely. Now. So you, you decided, like when you said your me, you talked to your mentor and you made the list and, you know, giving back to the community and you, you decided to choose art. Was art, always something you had been around or was it something you were really curious about?

Where, where did that connection come from?

Joshua: Yeah, always been surrounded by art ever since I was young. Always fascinated with movies. I loved Walt Disney animation comic books. I was always like into those things, right. Cartoons. So I was always kind of surrounded by art and music. And so as I start, as I started jumping it into it with inspired LBC, everything kind of just like opened up like fully, you know, and, and now it's very exciting to, like I said, be a part of

Benja: okay.

Now with with getting into art and the spirituality of it. And I, I say that spirituality of it, because your angle on art is different and it really matches like who you are. I'm even looking at the painting behind you, which is a more spiritual piece, right?

Joshua: Yeah. Shout out to Mr. Toledo. Okay.

And Ooh, mommy B. They created this in two hours. Nice. This pieces for sale is created during the absolute best of long beach awards. All right. And yeah, it's, it is for sale. So if you know of anybody ha

Benja: all right. Where did the inspired part come from you? You've got a, let me start back.

Explain what inspired LBC is in that as well, because you've got this organization inspired LBC. It also matches up with your, your love of photography and, you know, drone footage. So I saw that's your, your input in there really digging that. How did inspired LBC come about and what does it mean to you?

Joshua: Yeah, it, it basically started from just conversations. Mm-hmm , you know, because. Once I started getting that once I got, you know, I raised up my hand to do the art in Bixie park. I started meeting a lot of different artists and I was like, you know, how do I, I want to share what you do with everybody that I know, but how do I go about doing that?

How do I go about promoting this event? You know, cuz at that time, my Instagram was primarily just, you know, my personal Instagram was just all personal stuff. Okay. Real estate and like just, you know, personal videos. So I was talking to this girl at the somatic store and she's like, why don't you just start your own Instagram account?

And you know, anytime you start something new, you're just like, oh, you know, start from scratch, you know, start from zero. I was like, oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But after about a week, week and a half of talking about it, talking about with with Liz, you know, Liz mm-hmm I'll probably mention her a couple times cuz she was a big part in this too, but And she's like, why don't you just start on Instagram?

So I did and inspired LBC kind of just came about, you know, I was feeling inspired, you know, I was feeling inspired, like meeting these people.

Benja: Yeah. She's got a marketing background. Right. Or was it okay that I wanna make sure I had that piece of the puzzle there. All right.

Joshua: Carry on. Yeah. yeah. So I was feeling inspired and that's, that's where it started from and it, it really just rolled together.

You know, I think I was listening to Snoop dog is that one song where he is like, it's so easy to be Snoop Dow G and the LBC. And I was like, oh, that's right. Inspired OBC. Let's do that. You know? Very cool. It's

Benja: very cool. No, it works. And then when people see it, they're like, oh, okay. Inspired LBC. Yeah.

Joshua: What up, Sheldon, Sheldon, just trying to chat. It's the homie.

Benja: Nice. So what does art do? For you, I mean, what can it do for the community? Cause I'm listening to people talk about, well, we need arts, we need you know, this community thing and it's very kind of nebulous. It's like, yeah, art's good. And a lot of the conversation kind of stops there, but what does it do?

I mean, why are you, why would you push it as something that's good for the, the people, the community and the spirit basically.

Joshua: Yeah. That's an amazing question. Art does so much for people it's out of control. Like it's a very spiritual thing. Mm-hmm like what I've been doing. I've seen the impact that it's had on people. First hand accounts and also like, you know, look at the Beatles, right? When the Beatles performed and they traveled the world and they were on tour, like people freaked. You know, people were crying, people were fainting and that's the power of art, right.

Their art being music. So what art does, I mean, art moves people, you know whether that be physical art, like visual art music, and also performing arts mm-hmm , you know, it, it makes people feel, and I think people, especially now in today's world with all this electronics and, you know, cell phone use usage and stuff like that, it, you know, when we connect with something, right, that's more, we're fully alive, you know, versus being like on, on our cell phones, which, you know, like we're on a lot, you know, some because of jobs, but just everything's on it, you know?

Right. So when we experience like a piece of art or like music, we're able to kind of just be in what, you know, that flow. Flow statement, is it

Benja: ever has has the cell phone era that's what I'll call it right now. Has the cell phone era diminished that impact of art or is it it's it's weird now?

Yeah, because a lot of my work, a lot of people say, oh, you know, I wish I would've seen that in person. And I am on the introvert side and I'm thinking to myself I'm trying to do my best, not to see anybody in person, but , you know, but okay. The art does. Yeah. You know, I understand the art in person kind of thing.

Yeah. So has the cell, how's the cell phone and the mobile era kind of changed? The scene?

Joshua: Basically it's it, it's a double edged sword, right. With cell phones, because like it's fantastic. It's a fantastic marketing tool. Mm-hmm it allows you to get your message to a, a broader audience, deeper.

You're able to send your messages. Quickly, right. You're able to get feedback quickly with your audience. Like one thing right now, I'm really just studying like, like, you know, everything that Gary V talks about and like building personal brand and providing value to the marketplace. And that's for, for myself, I'll just go on the quick little tangent and I'll bring it back.

That's what I'm focused on that. I don't know if you notice, like with, just with my content in general, I'm changing it to, to more like informational items, like conversations like you and I typically have, you know, it's so fruitful. I'm like, man, I wanna share that. So exactly. Now I'm just recording it and I feel like I feel more invigorated by doing, doing that and sharing that type of content versus what I've done in previously.

So I'm, I'm tinkering around with that. But going back to your question. How, how has the cell phone error affected art? It's it's affected it, you know, in many ways, you know? Yeah, but at the same token, there's still a need for having fine art, you know up in like canvas art, like hung up on your walls.

Yeah. It changes the whole vibe of a, of a, of a place I've, I've seen that like time and time again, like it, it can brighten up a room, it can dim a room, it can make a, a place moody. You know, and I think, and also I was just in a conversation about this with my mom. She said like art carries. Yes, which yes.

You know, what are your thoughts on that? Oh,


Benja: I have this whole thing on energy and I'll have to break it down one day, but I don't have a full vocabulary. So I've just been studying and learning as, as you know, we've discussed different books and things. Yes. But yeah, art carrying energy.

It's, it's amazing to me how, you know, people will dress themselves, you know, they'll make sure their car right. And everything. Then I'll go to their house or see where they live. And there's not, not much on the wall. There may be, it doesn't have to be on the wall kind of art, but there's not much on the wall.

You don't see very much care taken to the curation of their own living space. Mm-hmm and it doesn't take a lot of work, but it's something that you think about over time. And as far as energy goes to me, you've got your own personal energy and your living space, your environment is part of that. So if there's anything I can do to make my environment synergized with me more, then I want to do that.

So, I mean, you see me here wearing the taco tea. Yeah. You know, , I've got my, my own stuff on the wall and that's one of my dad's pieces right there. It's the little Palm tree.

Joshua: Oh, that's so cool. Where is that a location specific location or what is it, what is it?

Benja: It's it's in Florida. Florida.

Nice. I was raised in, I was raised in Florida and my, my dad was a portrait artist and a signed painter for the state of Florida. Wow. Yeah.

Joshua: That's awesome, dude. That's amazing.

Benja: Yeah. So I don't know if you know, the, if you ever go down like a highway or into a park. Yeah. And you'll see, like, you know, one of those big signs that says, this is a natural habitat of the blue Heron, blah, blah, blah.

And there's a picture, the picture of the birds sitting in the lake or whatever my dad would do those illustrations. What? Yeah. That's so sad. Yeah. And and then also he did the portrait art. So if you ever went to like one of the libraries or something and there's, you know, a representative or a Congressman or something who had their painting up on the wall, my dad was also doing those.


Joshua: Yeah. I'm, I'm have to check that out because I'm heading back to Miami for art basil, bro. We should go to art basil.

Benja: It's definitely art basil do. I've never, I've never been dude. Okay.

Joshua: Gotta go

Benja: yep. The like a spot I've definitely done the LA art show. That's fun. Yeah. It's, it's pretty commercial and run through you know, people like to run through it pretty quickly and not really engage in the action that's going on there, but still it's still a good show, right?

Joshua: Yeah. I've I haven't been to the LA art show. I mean, like every time it's come through, I've always been stuck doing something or, you know, just timing wouldn't align. But I've heard, I've heard, it's kind of like a commercial too. I mean, it looks cool. You know, it looks like all cool kind of set up.

I think it, from what I've seen, it may be missing like kinda like a, a swag to it. Maybe. I don't know, like, just from the photos that I've seen, mm-hmm or like an event element, you know? But yeah, basil is, is a whole, it's a whole vibe.

Benja: Yeah, totally. I would say the LA art show makes sense for LA cause when got it, when you go through it, you're like, oh yeah.

Okay. LA.

Joshua: Oh, okay. Cool. Makes sense.

Benja: Yeah. But they, but they always have some, they always have some bangers there definitely were checking out. So saw a couple pieces by, by shepherd ferry that Ooh, will that never because he has several levels of his art, you know, the, the street art, the clothing, the small, the small boutique kind of art prints.

Yeah. That, that make their way to the small boutiques. Like, I, I didn't, I didn't know, like when he ever, they never dropped a print run that like small boutiques and little often the cut shops like they would sell would, would sell vinyl and a couple of these shepherd ferry prints. So he's hooked into that and the levels kept going up.

And when I was at the LA art show, I saw one of his larger pieces. and it was huge done up in diamond dust. So you saw the Andre, the giant face done up in diamond dust. Whoa. And it was like a cream background and then like a dark, a slightly darker tan. And then on top of that was the diamond dust. So there's like, that's cool.

These layers of color there, but it is all pretty modest and

Joshua: they're kind of like, yeah, they're all kind of like close in pallet. Yeah. Hue mm-hmm so it's like, they're kind of like subtly popping out. That's cool. Yeah.

Benja: But yeah, that's I love that. That's one of those pieces that never shows up on like, you know, height, beast, or anything like that, because it only goes through the hands of major collectors.

Joshua: Yeah. Yeah. That's so, you know, it's, it's so interesting. And like, you know, like how, what, what I'm interested in at right now is like the marketing of art, you know, and how to. Share a story within each series, you know, or each piece like, you know, beyond it, you know, I love, I love stories and I love storytelling.

I think that's kind of like the filmmaker director in me. And like, everything I do is like, how can I tell how can this, like, what's the story behind this? You know, mm-hmm, like, or what's, you know, cause every project that you do, there's, there's a process, right? There's that creative process that we all go through and also things that kind of come up along the way.

Yeah. You know, like you forgot a bottle of paint, so you gotta go get the paint or whatever the case may be, you know? Yeah. This, that and the

Benja: other no, the, the story is the greatest part. And I really get into it. Like I was talking to some artists about their branding and there was a lot of resistance.

Like I don't want to just be this commercial muck making gimmicks and trying to advertise. I'm like. Yeah, I get it. I really do. I really do, because I'm a developer at heart. I'm a creative at heart. And I, I fought that side of things for a long time. And you know, I explained this in one of the earlier ones, but I just started running into different people in corporate environments that would, that would kind of show me like, well, no, here's what marketing can do.

Here's what sales can do, you know, advertising public relations, promotions, et cetera, et cetera. It's a necessary thing. Right? I'm glad you said necessary thing instead of necessary evil because , it's not necessarily evil, but it can easily do that. Correct?

Joshua: Correct. A hundred percent.

Benja: So with the story And you've definitely done a good job of storytelling.

When did you, like, you've got this cutting edge about you. You're always on the edge of like of, of the research on like, you know, who's doing, what, how are people connecting? You were fast, you were out there with the drone photography out here. Yeah. With the drone photography. And I was like, okay, this guy's on the edge.

He's trying to make these things happen. Yes. When did you do decide to do the drone thing,

Joshua: bro? I've always been fascinated with drones. Like it's a whole different perspective. It's a whole different game, a whole different like viewpoint. I've been, so I started doing drones stuff like 20, I wanna say 20 16, 20 17.

Okay. I had a spark. DGI spark, which was just like the, the beginning beginner's drone, which was perfect. Cuz you know, I just wanted to capture stuff. And at that, at that era, it was still groundbreaking. I was like, holy smokes. Like this looks amazing, you know? Yeah.

Benja: Well like who, like who introduced you to it because you just seeing it online

Joshua: or yeah, no, I just, I just saw it online.

I heard, I saw drones were coming out and like, I don't know how I got introduced to it. Whether I think it was likely it was on Instagram and I was like, oh shit, like DGI, that's tight. That's really cool. Oh shit. Now you can buy them personally. So yeah, I ended up getting one and then you know, from there, like, you know, I would travel, I traveled that year and it, I took it with me everywhere.

And from there I was like, so hooked on how things looked because seriously it's like a movie. And now with the drone that I have now shout out to Tristan. It's like, it literally is like a movie. Like I have, like, I, I make it a point to, to drone at least once one to three times a week. Just so that way I can, you know, obviously get flight hours in, get the practice also just touch up on the skills, you know?

Yeah. And it's, it's fun. , you know what I mean? It's fun to do so yeah. I wanna start creating some, some movies and also do like commercial work, like any, anything, any type of video that, that people need for a drone. Like, I wanna be able to be like, I got you, you know? Yeah. Like, do you wanna do like events?

Do you wanna do like, you know, overview shots, whatever the case may be and I'm, I'm, I'm actively like practicing those skills.

Benja: Okay. Were you also, were you also part of the GoPro scene? The, the GoPro, yeah. The little camera that, you know, sports enthusiast would like I love,

Joshua: yeah. I love GoPros.

That's essentially my setup so I have a GoPro, like all of my videos that you've seen or that you you'll see on, like either Instagram or online is done with a, a GoPro, a drone or my phone mm-hmm those, those are the three, like, for me, it's like, it's all about simplicity. Yeah. It's all about efficiency.

I don't wanna be lugging around like all this equipment, because especially when you're capturing moments. Yeah. Those moments are fleeting and those moments are like right here and right now, so you have to be like, you know, being able to like being able to capture those moments. Right. And it's hard to do when you're like lugging around a lot of extra stuff.

Yeah. Nothing against that. But for me, like, I just love to like, You know, pull it out real quick.

Benja: Yeah, no, there's a, there's a certain beauty in the capturing of the moments with photography. Yeah. And, you know, I was for a while, I kind of poo-pooed on the whole photography. I mean, you know, photography. I was like, I saw, I was like, yeah, but you're just kind of pointing the camera or something.

Yeah. , what's the deal. And my dad was actually telling me, he's like, no son, you're doing, you're doing the blog thing. You know, you're typing it. So you should check out photography. And I was like, ah, whatever dad, you know, but, but I was at a, an exhibit in, I can't remember where it was at. It was near Santa Monica.

Okay. And they had their, their artist studios connected to the exhibit space. So we saw the exhibit space and then, you know, I started wandering around and. Guy opens up the door and I'm just walking past this door and I see these photographs on the wall and they're like hella grainy and messed up.

And I'm like, okay, that's odd. Like, Hey, what's going on here? And he's like, yeah, this is a this is some photography I took with this old cell phone. I found it was like one of the old flip cell phones. Yeah. , you know, it was, you know, really bad camera and everything. But he was saying that when I take this phone out, the, the, the people who are, who I'm taking photographs of their resistance level drops so much because it's like, oh, it's this surfer looking guy with this old beat up flip phone, whatever what, yeah.

And there were some of the most amazing photographs. And as I said, they were kind of grainy and, you know, bad resolution because of the phone or whatever. But he was capturing all these moments in Los Angeles that's and of all these people that were really cool. I think he called himself like the he calls himself now the iPhone photographer.

I don't know if he's changed his name since then, but it was that's cool. Like really cool stuff and really authentic.

Joshua: Yeah. That's, that's awesome. There's a couple people come to mind. One of my neighbors actually, he is, he lives in the building and he's been snapping photos from his iPhone and he edits, or I don't think it's an iPhone, it's like a different type of phone, but anyways, it's a mobile phone, a smartphone.

He edits it and he posts it on Facebook and people love it. Like it's perspective. I think the thing with photography that I appreciate so much, and the same thing with film is it's you have to have perspective and an I, right. Mm-hmm because with photography, your. You know, they say a photo's worth a thousand words.

It's true. You know, you can evoke so much emotion into a facial expression. Right. Look at the Mona Lisa mm-hmm , but going back to photography, you know, there's so much power like in like, you know, whether it be a model or what, whether it be nature, whether it be like travel photography, animals, there's so much to, to tell, you know yeah.

From, from the lens.

Benja: Exactly. So one thing I've always been fascinated by you is is your, you've got this great marriage of the business mind and the spiritual creative mind. And I don't know if you know, I have another podcast called show versus business, and we always talk about the, the creative inside and the financial side.

And. What I like about you is you're one of the rare people. I think that kind of flows easily with both, as opposed to having to like, you're a business guy and you really have to stop and say, okay, hold on a second. How am I gonna create this? Something that looks good? And maybe I should use a landscape or, you know, and they just, yeah, they have, they have a headache and decide to go, you know, drink themselves to death for that night.

Cause they, cause they can't, they can't figure it out. Yeah. And, and we know of creatives who don't talk about like talking about business, but you've got a very good balance of the two. How do you, how do you cultivate that?

Joshua: Yeah. You know, I, and I appreciate that. Because I, I think as I've gotten kind of like older it's, it's just like, you know, life will teach you lessons, like when you need them, you know, they'll just, things will happen.

And then you'll ha you'll, you'll have to like learn a lesson, but like started out in business within just the real estate stuff. Kind of, you know, that was just good. Business acumen and business learning. And, oh, I grew up kind of with a sales background, like direct sales, okay. And then went into management and then, you know, started interviewing training like that whole like business, like model.

Right. And then once I started getting into creativity, like everything started, like my whole world was opened within the CRE the creative world simply because, you know, I was so curious by it and I let it, and like it's led me down like really, really cool experiences. And also like, you know, I've been able to meet cool people like you, you know?

Yeah. Doing the networking. Yeah. You know, and I don't know if I answered your question at all, but

Benja: yeah. It's what, I'm, what I'm leading to is. There's a you know, there's a, there's a spiritual side to you. I was gonna say, I was gonna say, woo, woo. But apparent, apparently some people don't like the word.

Woo, woo. I think it's funny. Yeah, like, yeah. Woo, woo. Whatever I get it. Yeah. And a question I've been asking, a lot of people is, you know, where, where they fall in terms of. Law of attraction versus massive action. And, you know, you'll hear about like, from people like you know, Tony Robbins, Gary V grant Cardone or whatever.

He's like, I get in there, do it, do it, do it thing, bang. Ah, and it's like, cool, cool. I get that. I'm hype, you know, I really am wanna run outside and do some push up from the grass to be great about that's right. And then the other side, you know, is law of attraction. It's like, Hey, let the energy flow let you know, you go for what you what's, what's calling you.

There's you have a good energy, good energy will come to you and the action will happen naturally, et cetera, etc. So there's this law of attraction versus massive action thing that I've just been thinking about. Yeah. Can those, can those two be resolved? I mean, do you fall on either side

Joshua: or, yeah.

You know, I, I wanna drop a video on this soon. Cause I just had a conversation like this, but I like to refer to it as seasons. Okay. You know, there's seasons in your life, right? Just like there's seasons in the weather. And also wanna talk about seasons in, in sports, but there's a season for everything in your life.

There's a season to play. There's a season to rest. There's a season to work really hard. There's a season to, you know celebrate mm-hmm right. So it's just a matter of finding out what season you're in currently. What up with FASA? I see you out here. Coach Missy, how's it going? But you know, some, there are some seasons where you to rest.

You are not in a PO you may not be in a position to be at your fully best to, you know, to ex Excel energy. And sometimes your body will tell that to you specifically, like you'll get sick or you'll get a stomach ache or something will happen, or, you know just physically, and that's your body telling you, you know, take a break, you know, rest, you know, cause I feel in American culture in, in the, in the states, we're kind of told to work, work, work, grind, grind, grind, hustle, hustle, hustle, you know, this is the plan.

But if you look at, in different parts of the world, like in Europe and in Asia, you know, they, they find time for rest. Right. And rest is just as important as work is. And on the other token, right in the season of work in the season of hustle, There's a season for that too, where you have abundant energy.

You're just like, let's fucking go, let's get it right. Your inspiration will hit, you'll have a conversation or a business idea with somebody and they're like, let's make this shit happen. And then all those you'll see the synchronicities, right? All the doors will, will open up for you and all these opportunities.

And that's a great position to be in. I would suggest like in that moment to also take your time with those doors and see, you know, choose your doors wisely that you want to run through. Because especially when you're on an UPT trend in the uptick in your career, a lot of opportunities will pop up.

Right. And a lot of people will, will throw opportunities your way. And it's just a matter of choosing wisely, choosing the things that align with you and also choosing the things that you're like, hell yeah. You know, like that hell yeah. Energy, cuz if it's not a hell yeah. Then don't do it. Yeah. At that point,

Benja: very cool.

Shout to body thanks for everybody for coming through, by the way. As I said earlier, if you have a question or comment, throw in the throw it down below and we'll we'll check it out as we go. Now, Josh with that, you know, this is primarily about creatives in, on this podcast and, you know, I always wonder it's like, there's what I'm feeling.

Right. And I'm like, yeah, I want to go do whatever. I just want to go, you know, paint these five pieces. I want to go, you know, screw it. I'm just gonna go buy these canvases, paint, these five pieces. And it may not necessarily be what my business side of mind tells me to do. Right. Yeah. So how do you, how do you talk to creatives?

And you know, when, because a lot of us will kind of self-destruct. and how do you, how do you approach the business marketing sales side of things with creatives? Cause I know you work with a lot of them. Yeah.

Joshua: Like the first thing that kind of comes to mind is like, you have to love it. You know, you have to love it.

Like love every part of it because in this, in this business like in this creative business, like there's so much art that's flowing around mm-hmm and you know, I'm not just talking about like paintings, but also like content. Right. There's just a lot of content that's just being pushed out, pushed out, pushed out.

So you have to like really separate yourself and love the game because and also too, like I would say like build a team, you know? Okay. Build a team of like people that support you and then people that can help you build your business. You know choose your partners wisely play. And I read this from Naval Rav con mm-hmm highly recommend you, you check him out.

If you haven't already amazing. I'm gonna have to send you like a podcast with them. Okay. But one of the things that he talks about is like play long-term games, long-term games with long term people. Hmm. You know because one thing in, in I'll just use this creative industry, cuz like, you know, I'm so heavily invested into it is opportunities and ideas are endless, you know, there's everybody's like, oh I got this idea.

I got this idea. But what separates people is the execution in those ideas? Right. So what

Benja: do you say when someone like, you know, we'll talk about opportunities here. TikTok comes around and all of a sudden the entire landscape shifts, it goes from being a music platform, you know, musically and switches over to TikTok.

Takes the world by storm. And everyone says, Hey, if you're gonna be a creator, you have to use TikTok. You have to get on and do these short form video. And a lot of, a lot of people were kind of just like creators were really saddened by, you know, oh man, I gotta, I just started using Instagram. And now video, I don't like showing my face and da, da, da.

And you were saying, you know, you have to learn how to love the game. I don't, you know, maybe do they have to love, you know, TikTok, do they have to love you know, what's the it's difficult, right? Mm-hmm so what do they have to love? What do you, what do you,

Joshua: they have to love the game. Look at this. Like, if you look at sports, mm-hmm, like a football player every year.

They gotta train for the new people coming in. Right. The new roster of people coming in. Also we'll get back to MC FASA. I see your, I see your question. Yeah, we'll get back to that. But you know, every year that, you know, to, for the, the those athletes, they had, they, they gotta keep up with the new people coming in.

So I, you know, I heard Gary B's like, don't be married to one platform. Mm-hmm , you know, a lot of people were scared to go to TikTok because they built such a big audience on their Instagram. And now they're like, dude, now I gotta dance. And now I gotta do that stuff. Whereas TikTok evolved so much, so much since.

And it's so interesting because with TikTok, it's more on the interest graph versus Instagram, which is like social grasp, social grasp. Yeah. I'm sure you've, you've heard him cuz you tune in Gary B as well. But that's a part of loving the game, right? If, if the eyeballs are there. You know, if you want the eyeballs and you want the marketing and you want you know, people to purchase what you have or be in tune with your message, you'll have to go to where the people are.

Right. That's if you want it right. Yeah. Well, that's a, if you don't want it, then stick to Instagram.

Benja: right. That's and that's a fundamental mental shift that a lot of creatives have to take because there's, there's just this idea that, you know, if you build it, they will come. Sure. You know, and the land, the land underneath all creatives and everybody, you know, has, has shifted a little bit and we're becoming, you know, our own media companies in ways.

Yeah. In in fact, that's kind of how this, this podcast and this Instagram thing for me started you know, I was podcasting before and. I kind of left it alone and was like, okay, well that's cool, whatever. I'm just gonna be over here on Facebook. And my, you know, I have a hun bunch of little groups, you know, on Facebook where I talk noise, but I was on Facebook and I decided to go live one time in one of my groups and people showed up and they were like, Hey Benja and you know, just started typing comments.

And I was like, oh, alright. Yeah. And it evolved. I decided to try out Instagram, next thing you know, I have this love it. So I hear what you're saying with with doors and opportunities and like, you know what that door opened. You can go try that. You can go see what opportunity what's in there. Yeah. And I think at the very least, you know, creators need to find the different creative mediums, different ways they can express themselves.

So. I'm personally never saying to anybody, Hey, you have to do TikTok or you have to do, you know, Twitter, or you have to do whatever you know, email list, et C you know, let's not confine ourselves to the major three. There are all kinds of, but just keeping out keeping an eye out for what's available.


Joshua: Yeah. And, and, and, you know, like there's different just to use as a metaphor, there's different boats that people can take to get to their destination. Right. Which is, you know, it can be like, whether that be a financial abundance, whether that be like travel free or freedom there's different methods to, to, to do so.

Right. And you're, you're right. You know, you don't have to go to, to one, although those different platforms have the different nuances in like the audience. You know, so it's, you know, some, there's some very successful artists that don't, that don't really post on Instagram. Yeah. You know, they don't really need to same with TikTok.

I think for people that are up and coming like Instagram, Twitter TikTok, those are amazing platforms to get exposure for your work. And then at, at that point, right, you can kind of choose where you want to go from that point forward. Yeah. You know, you'll have those doors

Benja: available. I think so too.

I like the, I like the doors thing. Yeah. Let's jump, jump to that comment right now that move FAA said, yeah. Move process said, fo says, he says, hi, long time listener. First time caller, how does Josh successfully pull grants or art activations? Can they be used out of state?

Joshua: You know, I just smile and nod.

I'm just like, no, you know, it's it. Really is just a matter of applying for them, you know going, especially for something outta state Mufasa, I don't know if it's gonna be for something like out Miami or Chicago or New York, but doing the research it's going into that state's website that city's website seeing if they have like any arts programs, any grants programs, like, you know, just Googling it and going in there and then submitting those submitting for those grants, you know, for for Mufasa.

You know, I just use you specifically, you've already accomplished a lot within live bar activation hosting you know, content and, and the like that you can just, you know, you really wanna highlight that, right? Highlight all of the things that you've done. And you also have proof of that. So one thing, like just a little side note, for those of you that are listening is document your process, document, document, document, like anytime there's anything happening, capture it.

You know, it's important to capture the process because people love that. People love seeing other people create. It's a very, very, like fascinating, very spiritual thing, watching another person create and being in their process. So that's why I highly recommend to document when you're creating and then you can always go back and edit it.

You can always go back and edit it, but

Benja: yeah. Yeah. So you mean like, as you're creating a painting or, you know, showing the process a little behind the scenes mm-hmm you know, maybe I know I've seen people do like, Hey, I'm driving to the gallery. You know, I'll be there setting up tonight, come out and see me tomorrow kind of thing.

Is that what you're

Joshua: saying? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And even like grant writing. Right. You know, just putting it out there, like, Hey, like there's, there's two sides of the coin. There's some people that like, they don't want to share what they're doing. Right. They build in silence. Mm-hmm which, which, you know, I, I, I believe in both, right.

You build in silence and then let your actions show for it. Then there's another one where it's like, you're posting it on social. Like, Hey guys, this is what I'm doing. Right. Or this is what I'm striving for. There's there's benefit. There's pros and cons to each. I have found I've found pros and cons to both of them for sharing it with people.

It gets the buzz. It gets people excited. Yeah. Also it holds you accountable, you know, like for myself, like. I found that when I put stuff out there, like, Hey guys, this is happening or, Hey guys, I'm doing this. Like, like, oh shit. Yeah. Now I gotta

Benja: do it. You know? Yeah. I've actually found I had, I had trouble with this before because I was like, well, you know, if I'm, if I make a painting or something, what am I gonna do?

Do seven 17 pictures of the same painting from different angles. And okay, let me, let me take a picture of it inside. Let me take a picture of it outside. Let me run it down to the gallery and take a picture of it there. What am I, what am I even doing? Right. Yeah. But I, I really, I didn't vibe with the the showing my creative process, you know, I have, why was that?

I can't reach it right now, but I'll show you, show you later. I have a stack of, I have a stack of sketchbooks and partial ideas and I'll get to why, why, why is that in a second? But it's just this process that I go through. In my head, it seems very clear. But then when people see it, they're like, oh, you're doing this.

I'm like, Hey, Hey, Hey, no, no, I'm not doing that. It's going in this direction then why would you do this? Hey, you know, what you really should do is under paint with, and I'm like, holy crap. You know, and it just threw my creative process off. Yeah. And just having other people interject themselves in my creative process without my control was starting to throw me off.

So I didn't like doing that. So what I've started doing is being more, more abstract, just like talking here, like I'm, I'm just talking here. Yeah. I'm just showing pictures of you'll loosely.

Joshua: You'll loosely kind of refer to it.

Benja: Yeah. I'm so the things that I'm interested in, the things that I'm vibing with the music that I'm listening to, you know, while I'm working.

That stuff is going on in public. And then at some point I say, okay, I've got this body of work here, come out and see it, check it out. I don't know if you remember when I did portfolios display. Yep. I, I simultaneously put those prints in portfolios and in an art gallery in San Pedro. So all of a sudden it was just like, boom, you know, the, this, the body of this body of work came out and all the stuff I was talking about, I was like, yeah.

When I was talking about revenge, I referenced it in this print right here. When I was talking about representation. That's the name of this guy right here. Yeah. You know, the mirror, I call it representation. And I had a whole thing about that. So people were like, why are you arguing about representation in your post?

And why are you talking about this and sharing these representation things. I'm like, it's coming out in the art. It's this whole social media thing that I've been thinking about. But it wasn't, so it was a way to document, right. Mm-hmm but I had to figure out a way to just communicate somehow. Yeah.

And that, that worked for me. So I know everybody's got their own plan and can figure everything out, but

Joshua: yeah. You know, every artist is different. Everyone, every artist has their, their way, like I like to call it their, their creative way. Yeah. And you touched on this earlier, which I really wanna kind of revisit, let's go is sharing your creative process, you know, like who you share, what you're working on with is sacred in a way, you know, like.

And this is something that I've learned and like I'm, I'm starting to kind of experience and like, I wanna start talking about more. Okay. Because when you're painting with some, I've painted murals with like amazing artists, you know, and having them share their space with you and their creative process with you is a very intimate moment.

You know, it's a very intimate kind of thing. And sometimes, you know when you're working on something like you shared and people are giving input on your process or giving suggestions on what you should do next, or how you should do it sometimes comes unsolicited. And you're like, I'm just trying to create, I'm just trying to hang, you know, I'm just taking a little break.

So kind of who you share with is is very important, you know, cause sometimes it can come through friends. Sometimes it can come through family. Sometimes it can come through strangers. I think it's just a matter of No, like, kind of, you know, I guess accepting it. Mm-hmm but not having it dictate anything unless you want it to.

Right, right. That, whatever that information is, like, whatever their thoughts are, which is kind of hard. Cuz you know, when you're creating something it's very vulnerable, you know, mm-hmm, a piece of music, an art piece it's very vulnerable. Right. Like reflection. I'm sure you're going through something at that time that you're creating that piece representation.

So someone yeah. Representation. Right. So for anyone to kind of talk about it, you're like, no, but this is kind of like my thing that I wanna, you know right. Take

Benja: care of yeah. And you know, it, it, to me, it goes back to, you know, finding your energy flow. Yeah. The way I was putting stuff out there before it invited people to say, Hey, what about this?

Or why not try that? And that particular way of me putting it out there was giving me back energy. In a way that I didn't want not that it, not that it was bad because quite honestly, you know, my dad used to just go out to the mall or whatever, and he'd bring out one of those, you know, one of those giant size sketchbook, and he'd just start sketching and people would come by, Ooh, you should do an apple.

And he's like apple. He's like, he's like, Apple's a boring fruit. If you find me an exciting fruit, I'll do it. And they're like, okay. And you know, they, they come back with like some crazy, you know, Defor pair and he's like, Hmm, that's great. I'll draw that one. And it was this vibe, you know, back and forth that he had.

And I couldn't replicate that, you know, he was much more able to bounce off of people than, yeah. Well, I do it in a different way cuz I'm doing this right here. Right. That's a yeah. Different thing. A hundred,

Joshua: but also too. It's like when you're, that's what live painting invites, right? Mm-hmm it invites conversation that, and that's what artwork does is that it invites conversation, you know, when you're creating something.

So, oh, what is this for? Oh, I love this piece. Oh, where did this come from? Same thing with music, right? Oh, like, I didn't like that song. Oh, it was great. Same thing with food. But yeah, well, arts

Benja: art's inherently social. Right. So,

Joshua: yeah. It's and that's what I love about it. Like for me, like I love going out.

I love meeting people and it kind of just touches on all that. I mean, lately I've been a little bit more recluse simply because, you know, I'm in the season of just like creativity. Okay. And also just like I'm working on a couple different projects that are just taking a lot of, you know, bandwidth sure.

For myself that like, you know, kind of in that, like I'm in that process where I'm really just protecting what's what I'm working on. Yeah. In terms not, not necessarily protecting, but like cooking it. Yeah. You know, just I'm in the kitchen cooking right now, you know, that's right, right. You know, I'm chopping up the vegetables, making sure the recipe's right.

You know, tasting it. And then, you know, when I can find time, you know, for rest, I do that. And then also, you know being social and going out and like saying what's up to the homies when I can,

Benja: so yeah. No, I think that's very good. Just understanding that personal energy flow. Yeah. I learned from Kanye west, you know people were talking about working with him and his style and what it's like.

And I really like looking at studio sessions and hearing studio stories or behind the scenes stories, just how people work. Right. Yeah. And Kanye west, I'm gonna bring him up because he has this, this on off kind of thing where I, I don't know if you know, but he scrubs his website completely every few months.

So it's like Kanye west.com. You go there and there's. you know, images and links to whatever's happening at the moment. Yeah. And then you're like, oh, this is cool. He's got the stem player. He is got this and that. Yeah. I'll come back and look at it next week. Next week, the entire site has been scrubbed and there's like, you know, a picture of a bagel or something.

And you're like, what the hell? What is this? Yeah, exactly. But he does that in, in social media as well, where yeah. He's like putting out, you know, I'm wearing the boots, I'm wearing the, the saggy, the saggy jerseys I'm wearing this and that I'm out here talking to the paparazzi in this way. I'm putting out this little song.

People are saying, oh crap. He's out in, he's out in Wyoming talking to, you know, all these different people and all of a sudden there's buzz. It's like, what's he what's going on. And then I saw an interview with with push a T right. And push a T was explaining like how he just kind of had this this process that he does.

And Kanye came in and said, are you. Are you still developing? Still creating and he's like, well, you know, I got a couple things and I'm and Kanye west was like, yeah, yeah. But are you still creating? Are you done? Mm he's like it for the most part. Are you done? And yeah, push a T was like yeah. Yeah, the album's pretty much done.

He's like, alright, stop all that other stuff. Then stop that right there. Stop this. You're gonna go in complete marketing mode. I need you to talk to these magazines. I need you to talk to these people. I need you to go over here and over there, if you got anything else to work on, you can pick it up along the way.

You can have some of the other people help you out with it, but we're gonna call this thing done and push. It was like, he was like, he was so comfortable in the studio and doing what he was doing that to have someone come in and just say, all right, end of this, now we're going completely into marketing phase.

I was like, wow, that's really. powerful and it kind of makes sense for the way Kanye operates, because you you'll never hear from him, you know, for months at a time. And then suddenly it's all you hear. Yeah.

Joshua: Yeah. See, that's that's a, a, an interesting concept, right? It's like speak when you have something to say mm-hmm and that's something that I kind of, you know, I embody, I guess, or like, I that's like what I'm working towards.

Okay. Is like speak when you have something to say, you know, and like, cuz a lot of people love to talk and a lot of people, you know, like to say what they're gonna do. And there's times for that there's times not for that. But for, you know, kind of what you were talking about with Kanye west is like, he's always keep them, keep people guessing on the next move when you have a statement, make it and make it a big one.

You know, that's what Kanye does. So, so he only has to say something once or twice and then boom. People talk about it. Yeah. And that's kind of like, for my, like for what I'm, you know, for what I'm creating and what I'm doing, same thing is like, I wanna have people talk about it, be like, holy shit. Did you guys see that, that thing that happened that, you know, Josh was a part of.

And it's all for me, it's all about the guests and it's all about the experience. Like what do you experience when they come across your piece of art? You know, whether that be an event, whether that be you know, an art piece, like you have hanging up behind you performance. Like I'm all about that.

Yeah. Like I'm all about like that creative lifestyle.

Benja: Oh, it's funny. Because the, the reason that, that stood out to me so much, and you know, I'm talking about having a creative lifestyle is. Figuring out that there is no one particular way. Yeah. And I think creatives hear this stuff from marketers, from sales, people who speak with such confidence.

That's like, oh, your website's broken. You need to do this, this and this and this. And they're like, well, crap, my website's broken. And they start working on the website. They talk to somebody else who's in, you know, marketing or whatever. And they're like, oh no, you gotta have your, your, your sales funnel up.

You gotta be ready with this, this and this. And they get pulled in a lot of different directions and they haven't figured out their creative mode. Right. Yeah. So when I heard the Kanye west thing, I was, I was thinking of consistency, which is a very powerful thing. Not to knock it at all huge, but you know, it's like, you'll hear from a lot of people like Gary V would go back to him.

It was like, Hey, just be consistent. Keep putting it out, go, go, go and put out, put out, put out. And that is completely not the Kanye west strategy. Yeah. So, you know,

Joshua: Yeah. Well, I think with Kanye west, I mean, he has such a vast network and he's just like a hip hop idol. Right. So for him, he doesn't necessarily have to put out content like, like that for Gary V I think with his mode is like, for people that are pushing up to, to make it yeah.

Is putting, you know, putting out like loads of content. And I think his thing is like put out as much as you can, but don't overwork your yourself. Yeah. You know, and, and also have to stress it out. Cuz I think a lot of people are, a lot of people are stressing out like, oh my God, like, how do I create this content?

Like what do I push out? Like for me I kind of had this realization where it was like, you know what, I'm gonna put out content. And that makes me happy. Right. You know, I'm gonna put out content that like I love talking about or content that makes me laugh or content that I'm inspired by mm-hmm and see how it does.

And actually not even that like. Not even worry about how, how well it does, of course, you know, who doesn't like to, like who doesn't like to share, like all that. Shit's great. But I'm at this place right now where I'm just like, kind of like sharing a journey, like sharing little nuggets that I'm learning to people mm-hmm, in a way that's like fun and fun and engaging.

And then seeing what people fuck with. And it's cool because like some of the, the latest videos that I've been throwing on is, you know, people will come back to me like, oh my God, like, I love what you talk about with this and that, you know, silence and solitude. I'm like, oh, cool. You know, let, for me, those are our have you read, what is it?

The, not the four agreements. The Alchemist. Yes, yes, yes. Those are the whispers. Those are the whispers, you know, like the universe or the higher power God's telling you, like. , this is the path like this, you know, like peop you know, and, you know, I don't want to like, get too spiritual, but like not to woo woo.

Huh. Not to woo , but it's like God, or like the universe speaking to you through other people. Yeah. You know, have you ever had that happen where like, you know, you'll have like a spiritual moment, but like someone is giving you information that comes like unsolicited from a different, you know, like an unlikely source will tell you something.

Yeah. And you're like, oh shit. Like, okay. Like, you know, oh yeah. Something that deep inside that's telling you like, oh, you should heed this advice.

Benja: Yeah. I think that's like the, the patterns of, of life basically. I mean, you know, there are only so many ways that things transpire in life, you know The story of, you know, creation, germination things, growing things, expanding.

Those are all very what is that noise? Sorry. It's just all right. no, it was right, right next to the mic. So I was okay. What is that? Yeah. Yeah, so there, there, there are certain patterns just in life where you're doing one thing and you're thinking you're, I don't wanna say special, but you're like, okay, I'm on this one path.

And when you open, open your eyes and start looking around, you may see something completely separate that relates. And you'll find this from all the, the greats, like, you know, they talked about Newton and the apple falling. Right. He talked about like, you know, Einstein while he's on a train, figuring out relativity.

And he is like, oh, okay, okay, this can work this way. And I think that all, all goes hand in hand and. Really helps ease up on the stress of that whole, Hey, bang out content, try to do it the right way. You gotta figure out marketing sales, branding, promotion, advertising, you know, Facebook ads, Google ads sense.

Ah, you know, it just gets very, gets very crazy. So when you're, to me as a creator, when you're open enough to, and when you're strong enough to have your own lane, your own energy path, and you're like, I'm going this direction, let's see where it takes me, but you're not closed off. You can look at other things going on and say, you know what, while I'm doing this over here, that's kind of interesting.

I'm painting, I'm painting, but I'm inside a taco shop. And the way that guy is, you know, doing up the orange sauce on top of the tacos. That's incredible. I that's giving me some ideas right there. Maybe I should do some splatter paintings. Maybe I should. Yeah. And when your eyes are open, I think you start to really get in that, back to that synergy thing where it's like, I'm bringing in good energy and I'm putting good energy out and it's happening at the same time.

And I think that's lowered my stress and increased my output at the same time. Yeah. And trying to figure that out is, is fun, but, and it's difficult though. Does that make sense? Yeah.

Joshua: You know, I think to, to add to that is just like keeping your curiosity open, you know, and everything kind like everything builds upon each other.

That's why for me, I'm all about like, I love traveling. I love having experiences because that facilitates inspiration that facilitates, you know, quieting your mind. And tapping into your intuition, right? Cause I'm big into that, dude. I'm big into like meditation and big into like, you know, really just getting in tune with yourself because like, I think as you're kind of get older, like you know, it's just a form of like letting go of certain things, you know, letting go of beliefs that don't serve you letting go of comments or letting go of different things, different people or whatever that case, you know, letting go of negative beliefs.

Right. But you know, going back to your taco situation and your painting food plays a big role in, in art. You know, food can influence art, same thing with music, influencing art and all vice versa. So it's just like, I I'm huge into like when you're creating to sometimes take breaks when you need them to step away from the project mm-hmm

So that way you can get a different perspective on where you're at. Because sometimes you're so ingrained into the project that you, you know, you need to get, you know, to get a little step back to kind of just like see it from a a different point of view.

Benja: Yeah. And that's a, that's completely scientific too, that need to step back and, you know, relax your mind or relax, go from what you've been doing.

Yeah. There, they're just now starting to really understand how, how that works and how that helps. And like why a lot of these Silicon valley types, you know, they're a programmer or something and they've been banging away on something for a month straight. And then they, you know, go into the mountains and just start walking around for four days.

And when they come back, they're like, oh yeah, I got the idea for such and such. Like, what is, what does wandering to the mountains have to do with programming? And it's like, trust me, I'm good. I got this.

Joshua: Yeah, some people I read about somebody doing that every like every quarter or every year is they'll go and they'll just go up the mountains or somewhere where there's nature and just disconnect, soak in nature, you know decompress, get some downloads from, you know, just thinking, I think being in like you know, being in cities like LA or long beach or San Pedro there's just a lot of noise, you know?

And sometimes like when there's a lot of noise, you it's hard to think. I'm learning that, you know, I'm learning that myself and it's just like, when you take a step back and you kind of get back in tune with yourself and what you want, cuz sometimes people kind of like, and it could be with the best intentions, but like mm-hmm, plant little things of like, oh, you should do this.

Or think about that. Dah, dah, dah. When all in all, you just need to tap into yourself.

Benja: What do you, what strategies do you use to you know, quiet your mind, shut

Joshua: everything off. I'm just kidding. Meditation is huge. And meditation doesn't have to necessarily be like sitting in a room or sitting like crosslegged and like going home.

I mean, it could be right. That's one form yeah. Meditation can be just like going for a walk on the beach. Right. Listening to the ocean. Meditation could be like taking a, a nice long bath or a shower. Meditation can be music, right? Mm-hmm whatever that is to kind of just quiet the noise in your mind and get you more towards the present moment, I think is, is a good start.

For me, I kind of have different phases of like what I do for meditation. I would say that I would say journaling. Is has been huge. I've journaled a lot of what I've gone through, what I've done. A lot of these events that we've put on have started on paper mm-hmm in one form or, or another either paper or on Evernote.

I kind of went digital. Yeah, just because like, I, I liked typing and also searchable and all that good stuff. Mm-hmm and then also, like, I would say, find a hobby that, that you just love for their, for the love of it.

Benja: Right, right. Do you you know, it's funny, I started using in, in some ways I started using Facebook as my journaling tool.

Ooh, nice. Like I have a little thought and somebody, somebody called me out on it, like a year ago. It was funny. I was like, I really like ham sandwiches. I'm having one right now with this net net. I just posted as a Facebook. Right. Yeah. And that was my way of kind of journaling. Cause I'm like, yeah, I'm sitting down, I'm writing, I'm creating.

I like ham. Hold on a second. Let me tell Facebook. Yeah. Yeah. And I use Facebook and they're like, why are you? Like, are you, are you like journaling on Facebook? Is that what you're doing? And I was like you caught me

Joshua: yeah. I , you know, and like that's dope, you know, like create how you want on whatever platform you want, you know, and like, and express yourself.

I think that's one of the, the things that at the very, at the very foundation of like, how I want to be known is like, Josh really helped me. He really encouraged me to, to express myself. Right. And to create, you know whatever that looks like. Cuz I think I was, I was listening to this podcast and they were.

creativity or creation is the highest form of like human potential. Hmm. And I was like, oh, damn, that's deep. And you know, and it's true, you know, ever since, like we were kid men, like we were always creating whether, whether that be through dance, you know, through like things on the wall, what is that called writings on the

Benja: wall?

Oh, the cave paintings

Joshua: GLIs and all that GLIs yeah. You know, always creating right. Threads, silks, gowns, dresses, colors, like we've always been creating. Yeah. And when people are doing that, you know, they get tapped into some sort of like energy that is, is vital for a lot of people and also other people, you know, cuz other people get to experience that.

Benja: No definitely. And I think that that leads to what the core of art kind of is that self-expression that community, that synergy. So you've got the, you know, mind, body, soul society, and the general environment all kind of coming together at once. And that expression comes out in art. Mm-hmm so two quick things I wanted to hit on before we got outta here.

One of them, you just started mentioning getting into your personal expression. I'm big on brand. I started getting big on brand lately. Where, where in the sea of people creating, it's like having the necessity to stand out, be your unique self and have a presentation cuz in short that's what. Call brand your perceived value.

Yeah. As a personal brand. Right? Not as like a corporate brand, but as a personal brand. It's your perceived value? I don't mean to say you're worth more or less, but sure. It's a value statement on how people perceive you. Yeah. So what are your thoughts on like artists and how they brand themselves?

Joshua: What are my thoughts on artists and how they brand themselves?

Benja: Well branding and the, and art, art artist branding in the, in the current era, like you know, as I said, it's perceived value and it gets a lot of flack just because of the way it's termed, you know, branding, you know? Oh, I don't wanna, I don't need to create a logo. I don't need to, it's like call on step back.

You're branding yourself with everything you do, right? Yeah. How are you making your mark?

Joshua: Yeah. You know, every artist is. Is different and, and I'm, you know, I wanna talk about this too, is, is in terms of branding, there's this concept called 1000 true fans. Mm-hmm Kevin Kelly, Kevin Kelly. I'm sure you've heard of it.

And you know, I want to talk about that because you know, that's really all that you need to make a living, obviously, you know, to make a living as in your craft, what, whatever that be, whether it be like photography, music a craftsman, an entrepreneur, like a thousand people, you know, if in that one year, in one year, if they were to spend a, a hundred dollars with you, whether that be a product or a service mm-hmm, , that's a hundred thousand dollars right there.

Right. That's a living for most people. I'm actively working on that right now, too, which is kind of exciting. Yeah.

Benja: People hear that and they don't, they're like a thousand true fans. Like, they're thinking they need, you know, a hundred thousand Instagram followers or, you know, this 500,000 follower email list or whatever.

Yeah. And when you say thousand true fans, I think that really hits

Joshua: people. Yeah. And you know, it's like some, you know, sometimes I think that's what stops. Some people it's like, man, like look at these people that have, you know, 50,000 followers, et cetera, et cetera. And that's great and they can be making money off of it.

There are some creators that aren't creating money from that. Right. So it's just a matter of like finding your footing. And that 1000 isn't arbitrary, right? You, it could be 500 fan true fans that buy $200 or 2000 that buy 500, whatever the case may be. Right. Whatever the, that number is. But going back to your question about branding, I would say just, just have a compelling story, you know do cool shit, like be interesting.

Make people feel something tell your story, share your journey. Let people in be vulnerable with your people. Don't care. What other people think, you know don't judge yourself. These are just things that like I've been learning and practice and some, you know, sometimes like life will kind of teach you lessons twice.

Cuz sometimes you'll fall out of it, right? Yeah. And really just like create from your heart, you know do what you love and do it so good that when people think about that one thing they think of you. When they think of art, they think of Mr. Benja, right. When they think of a bit, they think of you, you know what I mean?

Yeah. Like, I think that's kind of what it, and you have hard work is, is a part of it. You know? Sometimes it looks easy for people, but the amount of time that it took to get them where they're at was a lot of, you know, blood, sweat, and tears. A lot of doubt, a lot of, you know, some anxiety, a lot of confusion.

The whole gamut of emotions, right? Not just the highs. I think the thing with social media sometimes. It's it's, everyone's highlight real and right. For me, like I kind of wanna, and the people and the people that are doing it right. They're also sharing the process. That's why I think sharing the process is kind of important because, you know, it's, it's not always like rainbows and sunshines as, as we would like, you know, there's, there are there's some problem solving, there's some things that need to be fixed.

So I think building your personal brand online is like, you know, just doing what you love and sharing it with the world, the right people will get connected to that and then just be true to it and spread the love, you know? Yeah, definitely nothing else matters.

Benja: That's, that's excellent. I love that.

So the one of the things I wanted to make sure we, we touched on quickly was I mentioned it where you have this you have a good Mel of Of the business side and the spiritual side. Right. And what's, what's so interesting to me and I totally don't know how to put this together because it's, it's a deep conversation.

We don't have enough time for it now, but I wanna let's go I, I wanna put it out there now. The, so I was looking back at like the whole law of attraction, spiritual side of things. And then I was looking at like the Tony Robb side, I said before, and I started going back to the history of, well, okay.

Tony Robbin is saying this, where is he getting it from? Okay, well this guy, Jim RO, okay. He exists. Where is he getting this from? And such and such. Yeah. And at the same time I was doing that with like, okay, Oprah's getting this. Where is she getting it from? Oh, she got some stuff from Brene brown or whatever.

Okay. She, he got some, she got some stuff from you know, Dr. Joe za cetera, you know? Yeah. And there are all these people and you start finding out where they get their information from and. Over time. What I found is that these two sides kept going back and back and back, and they started getting their information from basically the I'm.

I'm not making a theory here. I'm just saying a lot of it came down to the foundation of America and this current capitalist system that we have, like a lot of the founding fathers a lot of the people who were really knocking things out in the, in the beginning of like America's growth and prosperity, you know, your your Carnegie, your what's the name?

Howard Howard Hughes. Yeah. You know, all of these, you know, major players in the early beginning Carnegie Vanderbilt, you know, a lot of the, the guys who laid down the trains, the guys who made the steel industry, the guys who made the oil industry, who was the guy, the steel industry, Carnegie Carnegie steel Carnegie, Yeah.

And you know, banking, you're talking about the Morgan family you know, JP Morgan and those guys Charles Schwab. Yeah. Charles schwa. Exactly. A lot of those people. When you look at their lives, they came from a very spiritual base and they've had, they had this spirituality and business as one thing, and they didn't see a separation like you know, Carnegie when he was doing his steel thing.

It's like, listen, it's my spiritual duty to make sure that we get all this steel out so that the, the railroad tracks that the Vanderbilts are ma putting down can connect all these people, because these people are the foundation of America and da, da, da, da. And I started looking into that history and my mind was just exploding because I'm like, holy crap.

And Napoleon, it was Napoleon hill. That key me into this. He had some, he had some essay somewhere and he was saying like, he was praying and you know, about finances and things like that. And I'm like, wait a minute. He's not separating them. There is no, like I have to go to work and I have to pray. It's like, I pray about work.

Yeah. And it was just this weird togetherness and I see how it's laid the foundation for so much of what we're doing in America and why it all makes sense. So if you've never gone down that rabbit hole, , it's fascinating, you know, just, yeah,

Joshua: no, it's, it's a very interesting thing. And I think I love that about you is like, you're very you're like a, a learner, you know, and I think the thing is just like constantly learning about like new things and following curiosities and like relearning things, unlearning things, and.

That I always, that's why I was so excited talking, you know, talking with you today. I was like, dude, like we're gonna have such a good conversation, you know? Yeah. Because of that. But yeah, with Tony Robbins and also with the manifestation stuff I've done, you know, I've kind of tuned into both mm-hmm and there are there they're, they're all they're, they're like tools, right?

Yes. In your toolbox. And I think, you know, you just pull out different tools when you need them, you know, in your life, like sometimes you'll need, you know, faith in your life. So, you know, it just practice that faith, right. Sometimes you need hope in your life and you, you know, you pull on that and like you kind of just tune into those messages.

I think with business, you know, there's a lot of faith and you know, a lot of belief and I think it's very important to surround yourself with people that. Help facilitate that, you know, because especially as a creator or an entrepreneur or a creative entrepreneur, like you're, you're pulling from different sources to create something entirely new.

So it's, it's important to, to have people facilitate that.

Benja: Definitely. So what are you creating next or what are you creating? What are you creating now? What's your creation?

Joshua: I'm working on a few things, bro. So I'm currently working on these, this series online, you know, on, on Instagram. I want to talk about a couple different concepts.

One of 'em is the 1000 true fans. I wanna talk about that and give like a two to three part series on, you know, for me, it's just really delivering. And also sparking creativity for people and also like just mindset, cuz for me, like that's really, what's helped me. And a lot of these conversations I've already had with other creators that has really resonated with, so now I just want to start sharing that with more people.

So working on that, that, you know, that's a fun ongoing project. It does take some time out of my day to kind of, you know, script, write film, edit that whole process. I wanna talk about EKI guy. Have you heard of this concept? This Japanese concept called EKI guy? Yes. I love

Benja: it. Okay. Yeah. It's uh, it's it's Yeah, I, I, I started into that, but then I found out there was an American version of it and then like the actual EKI version.

And there's like these two schools of people that argue that what we're doing over here in America, studying EKI guy is not what the Japanese are doing. So the actual EKI guy . Yeah. So I don't know if there are cultural differences where it wouldn't make sense for me to study the Japanese way or yeah, whatever.

But yeah, I know of it.

Joshua: When it got translated, it changed a little bit right, right, right. But yeah, so just to give everybody like a quick rundown EKI guy is essentially like, it translates to the meaning of being and essentially that's what the Japanese are striving for is like these four different concepts.

It's like something that you are really good at, something that you, the world needs. Something that you get, you can get paid for and something that you're passionate about. Yep. So at the, the cross section of all of this is EKI guy and I think, you know, we can make money doing anything in this world.

And there's a lot of proof for that. And I don't just wanna talk about money, but like, you know, happiness just in general, I guess mm-hmm, , it's just a matter of carving that path. And really tuning into what you should be doing next. Yeah. You know, cause I think, oh, go ahead.

Benja: But say I think that that was part of the crux of the separation and philosophy where, you know, we've got this idea, you know, like Gary V would say, don't you wanna be happy and you know, just yell at you, you know?

You're like, okay Gary. Yeah. Don't and just get mad at you because you don't wanna be happy, you know? But there's this idea that there's, we are doing all of this with the notion that we should try to be happy as opposed to this other thing of, well, no there's purpose fulfillment and meaning and happiness.

Doesn't have a perfect translation into that world. Where it's like, if you, you know, did a great job of, you know, setting up an art gallery, people are like, are you happy? Well, I'm not like running around, jumping up, like, yes. You know, oh, happy. This is great. I'm, you know, smiling and whatever, but no, it's like, yeah, there was meaning there was purpose.

There's a contentment involved. So I don't sure. We, I'm not sure we have the right language for, for that yet. Yeah. But, but yeah. When, when you said happiness, that's that's what that made me think of and I figure you have a more INCOM compassing view on, you know, happiness, contentment, cetera, et cetera.

Joshua: Yeah. I think happiness is an inside job. Yes. You know, it's something that you can, and it's also a choice, you know, and sometimes it's, it's easier said than done. It's a practice. I think, you know, there's it's, it's really, once you can be just happy with where you're at and what's going on in your circumstances and it allows for everything to just flow a lot easier.

And then you're able to, you know, I think when you're in a happy place, like you're able to give more whether that be money, time, energy, and everybody benefits from that when you're happy. Yeah. You know, no one really benefits when not that there's should be a benefit with anything, but like everybody benefits when you're happy.

Like you are just on this frequency, that just is a very attractive frequency, you know? And people are magnetic towards you. Yeah. Like you're saying all the right things. It's a very, very amazing place to be for me. Like I'm, I'm practicing on being in that state more. And I have found that the more that I'm practicing on being in, in that state, it's being, making me just be more content in my energy, like, yeah.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, just like in my zone and not like jumping into other frequencies, trying to like people please, or try to like, yeah. Be someone I'm not try to be outgoing when I'm not outgoing. Like if I want to be introverted and out, I'll be introverted and out and that's okay. Yeah.

Like being okay with that shit, like I think is so, so important because especially when you're in social settings, like you, you know, there's like a, there's like that social pressure to talk or be cool or whatever the case may be. I think if you're just comfortable in your own skin you know, that will kind.

Make for everything flow to flow. Yep.

Benja: Flow. We're we're gonna end on that word, man. Flow is a great word. Hope everybody has a great flow and you're working on your, whatever your personal flow is. And shout, shout out to where's the food at, for showing up at the, at the very conclusion.

Joshua: Nah, this is a good,

Benja: this was a good talk man.

Joshua: Dude. Yeah, appreciate it. I would love to, to, to check it out and I don't know if you have, it can save it. That'll be amazing. Mm-hmm but what did you take? What did you, what did you learn from this? Like, let's talk about like that, like for both of us

Benja: this one conversation or the entire series of, yeah.

Joshua: Ooh, both. Let's do both. Yeah. Okay. What did you learn from cuz this is the Fana. This is the ending podcast of, of your week. Ben ACON,

Benja: shout out, dude. Yeah. Well, I'll do the, I'll do the week long first, cuz it's actually more succinct. Yeah, the, you know, like we were talking about with Kanye, just showing up and like bam, all of a sudden it's like, this is what I'm doing.

I wanted to, I wanted to do that with these talks and I did it. This is the third year I've done this where I come through, have a bunch of talks. I present a lot of what I've been thinking and hear from a lot of people with their current set of thoughts. It's always good, good thought leader in my personal circle.

Yeah. So I always have a good time talking to them and we have a good exchange. And I think for me it sets the tone for the rest of the year and pushes me on through until we do this again next summer as, as far as this one in particular, you know, as I said, there aren't too many people I run into who have a.

Who have the, the flow that you do. And I've been working on my flow a lot, and I think it's very, I think it's definitely starting to, to normalize to where, you know, I'm just chugging along in this direction. I can change direction if I want. Yeah, I'm not so disrupted. And I think in this conversation, at least for me, I kind of validated a lot of the thoughts that I was having, like, yeah.

Okay. I said it out loud to somebody who understands what I'm talking about and he didn't stop me to say I'm crazy. So, okay. , you know, I mean, you think you're saying, and whatever you have going on in your head, but until you start to bounce it around, yeah. It's not completely real.

Joshua: A hundred percent. And you know, we're all a little crazy oh yeah, yeah.

We're a little local . But yeah, no, I totally understand it. And like, you know, I appreciate you like thinking about me and like, I always appreciate our conversations, you know, cuz like I said, we're both like readers and learners and like just studiers of life. I think that's, what's beautiful about what you do and also what I do.

And we're able to share that with people through our different mediums, you through your art. I know you're probably in the NFT space, I would highly suggest that you continue looking into it in some form of fashion because eight bit is fucking dope. And like also the meta is like, I mean, you know, the meta its own like its own situation.

Yeah. You know, that would be cool to do like a VR. For Vecon, you know, like a, a VR space where people can sit, like there's so much that's happening with technology that we didn't even touch on. Yeah. We'll have to say for like a, a part two, for sure.

Benja: So I'm okay. You've worked. Okay. I did a, I did a very small test run of a, of a virtual art show.

And I want to do it, I want to do it again at some point. It's not what people thought. Yeah. There was no 3d involved, but it was basically I set up a chat room and a way to cycle through images. Yeah. And so I had my chat and people, I would say, Hey guys, what's going on this and that you could hear the audio.

And then below it, people were just commenting and the images were showing up. So yeah. Yes. Yeah, the, the vibe is out there. The stuff is happening. That little test went well. I didn't take it very much past that, but yeah, the meta the idea of the metaverse and I don't mean just. Being in a 3d space running around.

I literally mean just that layer on top of our current reality that we're starting to connect with where my presence in real life is one thing. And I also have a presence that I'm building like on social media, on internet, on Twitter, it's all forming this other verse. It's yeah. So I it's, it that's, that's technically kind of where the metaverse starts to come in at where you're starting to see everything that we're putting out there, creating its own environment.

Like Twitter is its own nation, community, whatever unto itself. Yeah. It's all a

Joshua: part of it. There's a lot of different nooks in the internet that people can kind of play congregate and and commune. Right. Mm-hmm Twitter being one of 'em Instagram, meta, virtual reality, all that stuff. And like a lot of.

Art is starting to do. I mean, especially with NFTs, it's amazing to see like the hands back or the power back in the hands of the artist, mm-hmm to where they're able to, you know, make commissions off the sales that, you know, continue to sell. I mean, I know there's a lot of fluff that's going on with like crypto news.

That's a whole different conversation with pricing, but NFTs are like still low key making its way forward. Like I wanna start talking about NFTs more heavily, like in the next month after some projects start kind of subsiding mm-hmm I wanna start having that conversation cuz like for events, huge for just engagement with your people, you know, the people that support you is one thing, tick, you know, ticketing, all that good stuff.

Yeah. But, yeah, we'll definitely have to

Benja: explore on that. Were you ever in, were you ever into the convention scene? Like ComicCons and yeah. Expos and things.

Joshua: Okay. Yeah. I love, I love all that stuff. It, I feel like a kid in the candy store, you know, just running around, just like saying what's it's cool.

Because a lot of the homies they exhibit mm-hmm so we'll just like bump into like a few of the homies. Say what up? Yeah. You know usually I roll with like Mufasa who was here earlier. Yeah. Heme Mike Castro, like just the homies will just cruise out. What about you? You like ComicCon? Oh

Benja: yeah, absolutely.

That's. I mean, as I said, the, the Genesis of Vecon was because I used to have conversations around San Diego. ComicCon like physically around it. Like, we'd go to a restaurant and we'd have a bunch of people meet up. I would post stuff on Twitter or something like, Hey, I'm hanging out here. All the people would show up and we would have just these conversations.

That's so cool. I, I left San Diego and a lot of my friends kind of moved to different areas and we stopped having those conversations, but I was like, let me just start having conversations on the internet and that's what happened. But what's in why, why I asked about the, the con scene is that's a place where I saw an application of, of, of tokens used in a way that could be used with NFTs, where you'd go to a con and you'd have a bag or a lanyard or a badge or something that said, you know, ComicCon 2007 special attendee, you know?

Yeah. And you're like, holy crap, where'd you get that? And was like, like, yeah, I was there in 2007, we did this and this and this. With Mardi Graw even, you know, you come by and you have the, the balloons, you know, and you say, yeah, I got a balloon from this year, this year, this year. And they're like these little keepsakes, right?

Yeah. Well, in a digital space, if I reregistered a ComicCon or whatever, and I'm in a chat room or something, if I name shows up and then somebody clicks on it, it's like, boom, 2007 to 10 D boom, 2009 artist alley, whatever da, da, da, and all this stuff is linked to me through an NFT or whatever, whatever kind of means all of a sudden it's like this whole new layer of who I am.

And the thing I like about NFTs is in theory, they're transferable. Yeah. So should we get to a system where, you know I log on to a new, let's say I log on to a new service for the first time and you log onto new service for the first time. If I, if I have all my information packaged up in some nice way, then when, when we meet online, it's like, oh, you're, you're Joshua Garcia.

You're, you know, boom inspired LBC shows up by your profile, by your avatar, whatever. And all of a sudden it's like all that information, all of that tokenization kind of came with you. Yeah. So it doesn't get thrown away. And so many avenues I think

Joshua: that's a huge that right there is like in the art scene.

That's, that's the revolution of that's where everything is kind of going mm-hmm , you know, because you, people are able to see, oh, you went to Benon three Benon four. Oh, you went to also ComicCon and it's gonna show, it's gonna show like this picture of you you know, People can kind of get to know you before getting to know you really it's kinda like having pins it's like along that whole pins, right.

Collectibles community and game. And like people can collect it and see what you've been to and like, oh shit, this, this guy knows this person or is familiar with that. And yeah, I think it's it's a new wave. Like the NFT culture is amazing, you know, from what I've seen, I've been to a couple NFT parties.

Yeah. That has been amazing. Grinnin what's up, dude?

Benja: Grinnin I gotta shout you. I gotta shout you out on that comment. Real, real quick. Josh, what's the name of that painting again behind you? So this

Joshua: is cosmic queen. This is cosmic queen. This is painted by Mr. Toledo. and umami B, they did an amazing freaking job on it.

Such a powerful piece. They created it during the art the best of long beach art award ceremony put on by long beach home and living shout out to Sal and Dan and it is for sale. So if you or anybody that you know is looking for an amazing piece, definitely, definitely check it out.

Benja: Describe it for the audio listeners.

Joshua: Yeah. So for the audio listeners, what you're looking at here is a very powerful African American female. She is a cosmic queen. There's only a three color palette to this. There's a black and white element, of course. And then the three colors is a magenta, a yellow and a cyan color, or excuse me, like a purple and She is basically staring upwards side profile view, just looking to the sky with an amazing you know, background design.

She has this big, beautiful Afro around here. She's got planet earrings and she's got Saturn a Saturn necklace, which is pretty cool.

Benja: Yeah. It's like, it's like, she's got it's like she's part of the celestial bodies and you know, like the necklace around her neck, it's like the rings of Saturn kind of around her neck.

So it's giving that vibe. No, totally totally rocking with

Joshua: it. And she's literally, she's glowing. You know what I mean? She's glowing, like. Umami and Mr. Toledo did an amazing job with the rendering, with the shading. Like it's a really, really beautiful piece. So it's looking for a home grin. They are.

So Mr. Toledo, he is I believe he lives in long beach. But he's not, he's very familiar with the lb art scene. He's created a lot of murals here in long beach, as well as around the country. He is freaking amazing at what he does. He's a painter, he's a muralist umami B same thing.

She's actually working on an album right now, up in the bay, shout out to a mommy. She's an amazing talented artist as well. And yeah, so that's, that's it? The cosmic queen it's 36 36 by 48. Are the dimensions 48 wide 36 tall. And it's acrylic and and spray paint.

Benja: Nice. So, no, it's a very, very good look there.

Yeah. Grinnin glad you pointed that out. The artwork behind you. One of the things I was pushing for all artists to do is make sure they have art behind them whenever they're doing live or something. It's like, Hey, listen you know, people are like, oh, your lighting's set up. I'm like, dude, this is like a, you know, two target target, clip lights.

And, you know it's, it's a, , it's a simple setup, you know, I'm all about just doing something simple and making it work so same facts. Yeah. And if you, I love it. And artist, if you ever see somebody that, you know, showing up online with nothing on the walls behind them, you can give them a piece of artwork and put it up behind them and say, listen, put this up behind you and pay me later and say, no, you know, I can't pay for your art site.

Listen, just take the art, put it behind you. We'll talk about payment later. Sell it.

Joshua: yeah. Absolutely make it happen, you know? And that's, that's, that's another thing about art, like the beauty with art too, is I was I guess we, you know, a parting thought is with murals for, for those of you who are doing murals are interested in murals.

One, the arts council is doing like a mural teaching, teaching program. I think it's this week or next, so tune into that. But with murals, it's an advertisement, you know, mm-hmm, a public advertisement of your art, you know I've come across many artists who are doing murals and they continue to get mural jobs from previous murals that they've done.

So alls to say with murals, you know, public advertising, but also any project that you do, whatever you're creating, make sure to. Talk about it and share it with the world because the world needs to see your art. They need to see what you're creating, because if you connect with at least one person with what you're doing, if you bright someone someone's day, that day just be because of something that you put out there, whether it be a piece of content, artwork, work in progress.

I think you're making a big

Benja: difference in the world. Yep. Definitely. Josh, I back wall. All of what you say? No, no, no bullshit flew across, so I don't have to stop and make a correction. out here, baby. That's right. That's right. Good stuff, man. Yeah. Thank you for having me. So Def definitely. And so where can people find you?

Joshua: I primarily live here on Instagram. I sleep here. I'm just kidding. Inspire LBC on, on Instagram. Spread lbc.com on the website. That's kind of just like what I've done in the past. Previous events, some photos I love doing events and you know, I just love creating in general, but Instagram is where you can reach out to me.

I do have a TikTok that I'm building, but I would say just on this platform would probably, probably be the best. And yeah, if, if you need to get ahold of me, that's where it

Benja: would be. All right, man. Any, any last parting words before we get out here?

Joshua: Any last parting words, I mean, I wanna say congratulations to you on this Benon dude.

That's awesome. Putting something on for the people for like a whole week is amazing. Like I, you know, I tuned into a couple of your sessions with other people have been amazing. I, I kind of wanna go back and like, I know you've been posting all of it, but you know, I think it's people like you that like.

Or really make a dent in the universe, you know for the better. Okay. And yeah, and I would just suggest for people to tune in tune in tune in to themselves, like whatever it is, like, like I said, I want to like encourage people to like really just like go after the shit that makes you feel alive.

Like when you're, when you're fully alive and you're fully doing what you love to do, like you're in that flow state. And I think what this world may be lacking sometimes is people that are in that flow state. You know, a lot of people are just going, are just clocking in and checking in going day to day.

I've been a part of that too. I'm not excluded to that. It's just a matter of finding those things that make you feel alive and like where you're fully expressing yourself, you know, when you're just like your energy's at a high, whatever that looks like for you. I would just say like, Do that, if you don't know what that is, then you know, experiment and, and, you know, go back to things that you loved as a child.

I think that's where kind of where you can find it. Excellent. Excellent. Very, very long winded partying message.

Benja: no, no, it's, it's a great partying message. I totally appreciated. Josh inspired, this has been, this has been one for the books. I am inspired. I know everybody who listens to this will be, as I said, I'm gonna be posting this up to apple podcast, Google podcast Spotify, we got we're LinkedIn there.

And actually I do post to LinkedIn as well. That's a new area. I'm kind of. Posting a lot of the, the business mind stuff too. They seem to like it. So, yeah. It's it's going out all over the place. It's under Mr. Mr. B's add experience and you can find everything I'm doing it. Mr. binge.com. Ooh. So that's it.

that's it for this one, April Switzer. I'm glad you joined at the very end. We love you having you here. Love you April. Yeah, but that's it for this one. Appreciate it, Josh. Cool. Thanks for having me on definitely peace.

All right. That was Josh Garcia, Joshua Garcia Inspired LBC, making the world a better place with art. And thank you all for joining us in all seven days of this. We've had some great, great conversations. I'm gonna be going through all of these making clips putting out other information. I'll definitely make sure everyone is all linked up.

So you'll be able to go back and reference all of these later. Thank you for showing up my rock and keeping, keeping keeping Josh in line there. This has been a great experience. I appreciate all of you. I don't know when the next podcast I'm going to do is, but as I said, search for Mr. Benja's ADD Experience on.

On a, on your podcast platforms and I'll be putting out these long form versions there. And of course, follow me here on Instagram. If you just want the, the clips and to talk to me at any time, I'm all about art design and development, which is what the add experience is about. So if you want to talk to me about creation development being artistic, it's something I've studied.

All of my life developed video games, worked for major corporations, worked for small corporations and I've worked for myself. So that's what I'm building now. And I appreciate you all. This is gonna end it for BenjaCon 2022. See you guys later. Bye.

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